WHO'S IN THE WRONG

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This biker reckons the car driver is in the wrong, in fact they both are, the biker for not signaling and being too close and in a blind spot, maybe, and the car driver for not looking over their shoulder and just pulling out and not signalling either, what do you think?

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  • Gabby
    by Gabby 2 years ago
    What's the hurry? I assume anyone would pull out in front of me in a passing situation. Even if the driver checked mirror..being a small profile and in the blind spot could be disaster...
  • Carol
    by Carol 2 years ago
    Here is my 2cents worth: From what I can see, both the motorcyclist AND the automobile driver crossed a solid line (in the US, at least, the solid line means that it is a "do not pass" zone!). If you ignore that issue, then what I see is a motorcyclist who, in an effort to speed up his/her trip, attempts to pass a car on the left with no regard to the fact that the car might just try to pass, too...and the motorcyclist was not prepared for this...not good. The motorist started to pass, obviously without looking to see if anyone was to his/her left, and in the way. My conclusion is that both parties are equally responsible for this accident.
  • Biker Beast
    by Biker Beast 2 years ago
    The car is definitely in the wrong. The right lane had the broken line giving the right of way to pass, the left lane had a solid line no passing lane. The car; regardless of how close the motorcyclist was to the car and position, the car in fact pulled out in front of the bike, however, it was a bad move on the motorcyclist for being in the blind spot and following too close and passing on a very curvy roadway. As my rule of thumb is if you pass a car that will advance you to another vehicle that would just be in the way, don't bother passing any vehicles.
  • motorcyclepath
    by motorcyclepath 2 years ago
    Being an ex-cop, the obvious is that the car driver committed the offence of change lanes - not in safety. However the biker committed the "common sense offence" of being stupid, following too close, and having a me first attitude while attempting to pass more than one vehicle at a time and not allowing the driver in front to make his pass first, as he is obviously the one who should be past the slow driver ahead before the rest of the inpatient drivers behind.
  • Tuck
    by Tuck 2 years ago
    Biker could have avoided this by not being so impatient, and having a out. I agree the car didn't look, however the biker should have been prepared for that. Allowing the car in front of you to pass a slower car is the polite thing to do here.
  • Jen
    by Jen 2 years ago
    I think in doubtful situations like this, the biker needs to be overly defensive and make sure that everything is as clear as can be. Make sure the cars have had plenty of time to see what you are doing. Looks like the bike may have approached this car very quickly and did not assess the situation long enough before passing.
  • Dave
    by Dave 2 years ago
    Motorcyclepath, you nailed it. The driver of the car gets a ticket, no question. However, if the rider of the motorcycle sues the driver of the car for his injuries, he (or she) is going to have a hard time winning with this video as evidence. Yes, the driver of the car was negligent and probably committed a traffic violation. The rider of the 'cycle was, in my view, at least equally if not more negligent.

    Consider: For at least 10 seconds before attempting to pass, the motorcyclist is much, much closer than two seconds behind the car. It's a little hard to judge from the video, but it's more like 1/2 second most of the time. So, #1, that is tailgating. #2, the bike is invisible when he pulls out to pass, because he moves directly into the car's blind spot. Notice that when the car starts to pull out, the bike is still shading toward the centerline, not out to the left where he might be seen and give himself another split second of reaction time. And, #3, the rider is pushing way too hard to pass, but then doesn't put himself in a good position. Traffic is moving at something like 60 kph BEFORE he pulls out to pass, at which point the rider takes it up rather gently to 100-110kph. I don't hear a horn beep, I don't see the high beam indicator flash, nothing. Just a rather leisurely acceleration into a vulnerable position.

    Hindsight is 20/20, of course, but that video is a nice example of how being "in the right" can land you in the hospital, or worse.
  • marcus
    by marcus 2 years ago
    Biker is following the car too close at 75kmh just waiting impatiently for the broken line and as it arrives accelerates to 115kmh in less than 2 seconds, way too fast! At this rate of acceleration, he was going to hit probably 150kmh after passing the second car on this little curvy road. We can't see if the car driver used his flasher because the biker pulled up too quickly to see, not letting the car driver enough time to react. For me the title of the video should be : " good driving lesson for a stupid biker ". We all made our mistakes and learned from them. These bomb drivers think they own the road and have all the rights. I don't put them all in the same basket but no smoke without fire; what's the use of a bike that goes to 150mph when the limits are at 70 ! I've seen too many of these crazy drivers on the road or YouTube doing stunts and causing accidents to others at the same time. They think that motorcycling is an Extreme Sport. I didn't mind for Evel Knievel, he was doing his stunts at the right place, off the road, and that's what they should do ! No pity for this stupid biker!
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